His description about the 19th century overhaul is roughly correct, but hardly novel (see for instance Waterman 2012: 424-425 for an overview). Just as much of the 'student movement' aims to reshape economics, Schröder's illusion of novelty is much-exaggerated and it often misses the point entirely. Critiques of models, assumptions, mainstream practices and conclusions have always accompanied the economics profession, as these students are sometimes rather good at pointing out. The most significant contributions of, say, Post-Keynesians date to early/mid-20th century through Keynes, Kalecki, Robinson, Kaldor, Pasinetti, Garegagni etc. To point to the "open minded and pluralistic discipline that existed about a century ago" I think is deluding oneself and succumbing to Rosy Retrospection. Austrian scholars fall into the same trap, idealizing the University of Vienna at turn of the century. The problem is not the material, but the attitude. The willingness to engage in honest and genuine debates.
But That's What Rethinking-Movements Aim To Do, right?
Well, nominally yes. Though very little in practice. I have two problems with these movements of indignant students-turned-crusaders calling for a complete overhaul of the discipline:
- They often have little patience for ideas that don't conform with their worldview.
- Their knowledge of economics is hopelessly narrow.
Firstly, the allegedly open-minded pluralist approach applies very much once the crusader has paid his anti-market/pro-government membership fees. The convention is, as the overwhelming majority of students do, almost by definition to categorise any form of positive approach to markets as "mainstream". This goes even for prominent scholars such as Lavoie (2014), categorising Austrians as conservative mainstream even though they haven't been for a century or more. I'm sure most Rethinking people would firmly put fierce mainstream critics such as McCloskey in the 'Mainstream' box since she favours markets. If rethinking groups really cared about pluralism and novel approaches they would quickly incorporate more strands, drop their anti-market prerequisites, and start looking towards the incredible riches of the blogosphere (even some reading of 21century social democracy blog would enlighten them immensely since it actually deals with, and engages in debate with, pluralist approaches across the spectra).
I remember discussing econometrics and minimum wages with a student involved with the Manchester group last year, who detested those pesky free-marketer economists whose econometric research showed that minimum wages lowered employment: "If you do the econometrics properly, you find the opposite result!", he indignantly proclaimed, ignoring the absolute avalanche of empirical and theoretical work of various strands that minimum wage discussions have poured out. Such attitudes, all-too-common among the movement, amounts to nothing more than replacing one set of blinders with another; instead of ex-ante demanding that minimum wages reduce unemployment, The New Economic Science is required to produce the opposite result. Any discussion of plurality, of various approaches, of contrasting results and the more modest approach the movement shows in the media was conveniently forgotten.
That feeds into my second point: The knowledge of economics is hopelessly narrow. If Rethinking ventured as far as the blogosphere they would quickly realize that profit-maximizing models or perfect competition or smoothly-shaped monotonic functions are pretty much absent - it's not what economists do or what they believe. They could look towards mainstream macro professors incorporating endogenous money in their undergraduate IS/LM models ("That's impossible!" yells the indignant crusader. "Watch me", I'm sure my Sydney professor would respond). They could even open some mainstream journals from time to time, and find discussions such as Colander (1995) critique of AS/AD, Mankiw's defense of mainstream, Romer's (2000) alternation of IS/LM, Woodford's (2010) model of financial intermediation or Stiglitz's (1993) account of Keynesians. To name a few. Or the severe critique coming from comrades on the left (see Shaikh 2016).
Or maybe they wanna learn from more familiar scholars sympathetic to their cause, such as Manchester Economist Dyane Coyle:
The report also mistakenly equates pluralism with the specific views of heterodox economics, rather than the open-minded willingness to analyse economic issues from a range of alternative perspectives (including heterodox ones). There is an obvious logical fallacy in the labelling – and dismissing – of any non-heterodox views as the ‘neoclassical mainstream’
Or Roger Farmer at his blog 'Economic Window' almost ridiculing the Post-Crash report by quoting themselves:
On Page 23 of their report, the Manchester students cite John Stuart Mill
"He who knows only his own side of the case doesn’t know much about it. His reasons may be good, and no-one may have been able to refute them; but if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, and doesn’t even know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion.”
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
My advice to students is this. Continue to question everything you are taught. Lobby for classes on alternative approaches: But also take the time to absorb those ideas that are in the mainstream. The very best mainstream economists were the radical students who questioned authority when they were undergraduates. It is those economists who you must engage if you are to make meaningful changes that will advance our understanding. That takes hard work, perseverance, and patience.
To be sure, on his most lucid days, even Lavoie produces useful charts, like this one:
If students, like Schröder, continuously attack the far-right (and irrelevant) edge of the chart (See Becker or Utility-Maximization), while ignoring the rest - and most importantly the light-green area where the interesting debates occur - the rethinking movement, if successful, is doomed to replace one set of blinders with another.
Schröder is absolutely right when he points out that
If economics is to guide us through the complex challenges faced by our globalised world (e.g. climate change, demographic change, and migration), it cannot afford to be blind to the invaluable insights and inputs from other disciplines, or afford to ignore challenges from within itself.Unfortunately and ironically, movements such as Rethinking Economics has a pretty poor track record of actually achieving that.
Hi Joakim,
ReplyDeleteI'm Cahal from PCES, we've met a couple of times (including at the Manchester conference, though it wasn't me who you spoke to about the minimum wage!)
I actually think you have a point about the movement. There is often a distinctly left wing vibe to the events etc. In one sense it is hard to escape this: we invite 'right wingers' to our events as much we can, but the simple fact is that they are less willing to come. If you have a movement that is challenging the status quo, then it's more likely to attract those who identify with the left. It's an ongoing challenge and at PCES Manchester we are always looking for a broad range of ideas, so let us know if you know any mainstream, Austrian or other non-left economists who might be willing to do events etc.
However, don't let a couple of bad experiences colour your perception too much. At Manchester we have had Stephen Davies, Andrew Lilco, Gerry Steele and others speak at our events. The students in currently in the society cover a fairly broad range, including a fair few people who are quite 'pro-market' (oversimplified term I know).
I'm also not sure about how you frame your quotes. I think Diane's view is not the same as yours as she is basically looking to define non-neoclassical economics out of economics and just stick to pluralism 'within the mainstream' (an oxymoron if you ask me). Similarly, while Farmer's comments as a whole were fair and useful, the way you quote them almost implies we didn't engage with mainstream ideas in our report, which we most definitely did.
A forthcoming book by me, Joe Earle and Zach Ward-Perkins also draws on ideas like seeing like a state and Hayek's critique of central planning to criticise neoclassical economics, as well as advocating full pluralism including Austrianism, Schumpeter, neoclassical economics or what have you. So hopefully this kind of thing is more in line with what you have in mind when you speak of drawing on a broad range of ideas.
Hi, Cahal! I must shamefully admit that I don't remember you very well. I'm sure we had a great time!:)
DeleteI understand that left-leaning economists generally are more willing to take part in conferences, finally having somebody who listens to their ideas - but same thing applies for pretty much every idea that isn't much welcomed, from MMTs to Market Monetarists.
Since I have some background and decent amount of connections in Austrian/Classically-liberal circles, I helped Glasgow Economic Forum get in touch with several Austrians (Mark Pennington of King's eventually participated in 2016) - I'd be very happy to assist you guys with similar connections. This year, for instance, I saw you had Devrim Yilmaz present 'Intro to Austrian Econ' - Don't get me wrong, Devrim knows SO much, but his research focuses on very different areas.
You're right. Diane is very sympathetic to PCES if I'm not mistaken. I just found her point above very revealing... and as to Farmer's comment, I didn't mean to imply that your report did not engage with mainstream (which it very much did).
BOTTOM LINE: I think if I scratch most PCES/RE people, they do sincerely want pluralism and diversity, as do I. Thing is, that's not what anyone reading your media articles, visiting your conferences or discuss economics with some representative takes from that. You are nominally for pluralism - but in reality, unfortunately not so much. And that frustrates me, since I see so much potential in what you're doing and sympathise a lot.
Oh, and I'm looking forward to that book (send me a copy?) and I'd be happy to assist with input if you want to.
DeleteKind regards, thanks for stopping by and I hope to see you around!